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Angry and frustrated by her conversations with her mother, Erica goes back to her therapist, Dr. Julie Colwell. Julie helps Erica see how her own fears are driving the frustration and anger she feels towards Kini. Erica decides to face the difficult choices in front of her, starting by scheduling her first Covid shot. Episode 5 of 6.


Host & producer: Erica Anderson
Senior producer: Maia Laperle
Series editor: Emily Harris
Final mixes and sound design: Josh Wilcox, with Walter Nordquist, Brooklyn Podcasting Studio
Executive producer: Eve Pearlman

Special, heartfelt thanks to Erica’s mom, Kini Christie, for being willing to have these conversations. Much love.

Thanks to the many other people who made these conversations possible, especially Dr. Julie Colwell, Dr. Keren Landman and Jonathan Jarry.

Executive Producer of Colorado Public Radio’s Audio Innovations Studio: Brad Turner
Artwork: Maria Juliana Pinzón
Marketing support: Clara Shelton, Jodi Gersh
Additional support: Rebekah Romberg, Jo Erickson, Erin Jones, Luis Antonio Perez, Emily Williams and Kibwe Cooper.

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